Thom Hartmann - Takes on 911 Conspiracy - Fact or Fiction

Thom Hartmann hosted a debate between Kevin Ryan, 9/11 UL whistleblower and co-editor of the online "Journal of 911 Studies," and Michael Shermer, publisher of "Skeptic Magazine" and Executive Director of the Skeptics Society.

For some background on these participants, see:

Kevin Ryan

Kevin Ryan is former Site Manager for Environmental Health Laboratories, a division of Underwriters Laboratories (UL). Mr. Ryan, a Chemist and laboratory manager, was fired by UL in 2004 for publicly questioning the report being drafted by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on their World Trade Center investigation. In the intervening period, Ryan has completed additional research while his original questions, which have become increasingly important over time, remain unanswered by UL or NIST.

Through interviews, presentations, and his work as co-editor at the online Journal of 911 Studies, Mr. Ryan works to bring out the truth behind the events of 9/11/01 for the benefit of all people.

Michael Shermer

Michael Shermer is the Founding Publisher of Skeptic magazine and the Executive Director of the Skeptics Society. He is an author, speaker, and producer.

Dr. Shermer is a contributing editor and monthly columnist for Scientific American, and is the host of the Skeptics Distinguished Lecture Series at Caltech. He is also the co-host and producer of the Fox Family television series, Exploring the Unknown, and serves as the science correspondent for KPCC radio, an NPR affiliate for Southern California.

Audio on Debate (23 minutes without commercials - you are welcome!)